Cruise control jammed on

LTDHO · Post by **LTDHO** » December 16th, 2009, 7:28 am

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/driver ... 5810668864" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I didn't think this could ever happen!
Or is 'Chase Weir' that stupid?

[Sterling] · Post by **[Sterling]** » December 16th, 2009, 7:36 am

What an idiot. Makes ford drivers look bad.

Dansedgli · Post by **Dansedgli** » December 16th, 2009, 7:40 am

Is there any reason why turning the key off didnt help him?

Mum's cruise control got stuck on once when I was driving home from work. I was on the back roads near my house. My foot was hard on the brakes and they worked for a little while then burned out and stopped working.

Then I switched the car off.....

Aftermarket cruise control ftl.

SnyperEB · Post by **SnyperEB** » December 16th, 2009, 7:42 am

I call BS

BROCKYB8 · Post by **BROCKYB8** » December 16th, 2009, 7:53 am

Yeah i dont know wether i believe it or not .

Like dan said ive had aftermarket one go on dads old camry do same sort of thing about 8 years back
But turning it off reset it .

There also hasnt been any mention of what speed he was doing which seems very weird

stevo · Post by **stevo** » December 16th, 2009, 8:26 am

They said on the radio he was stuck on 80kph

Troutman · Post by **Troutman** » December 16th, 2009, 9:04 am

Still doesn't quite make sense. I can understand the brake pedal switch failing, but the ignition switch, transmission selector (at least to put it into a lower gear to reduce the speed, or neutral), cruise control master switch, 'decelerate' button etc all failing, and then he claims he pulled up by using the brakes anyway. He had heaps of time to figure it out... probably just distracted by his phone calls.

OED666 · Post by **OED666** » December 16th, 2009, 9:34 am

I think the guys likes the sauso!!

Hard to believe that he couldnt change gears, turn it off, or stand on the fucking brake as soon as it happened.

My sister in-law's Astra had aftermarket cruise, and it was holding the throttle open. My brother being my brother decided to drive it from the Gold Coast to Brisbane. He got to Loganholme and the brakes ran out. He managed to stop it. The left front tyre popped due to the heat, and when I got there about 35mins after he stopped the brake were still smoking. Some lady told him to poor water on them, he rang me and asked... NO FUCKING WAY!!!

Ended up costing $1800 to fix the car. The pistons in the calipers melted they got that hot. It was all caused by a nut coming lose. I had fixed the problem within a few minutes.

ClassicAU · Post by **ClassicAU** » December 16th, 2009, 9:53 am

Total crapola! This bloke was actually on the radio this morning, and said the cruise was stuck set at 100km/h. Apparently the brakes would only get him down to 80, then failed and went back up to 100. Then he said he stopped by ripping the handbrake and JAMMING THE BRAKES! I thought they failed you duche bag!

One funny thing I saw on the news.com.au story was they "impounded" the car. I would love it if he now gets charged under hoon laws for speeding and wreckless driving!

Troutman · Post by **Troutman** » December 16th, 2009, 10:33 am

ClassicAU wrote:wreckless driving!

Given his apparent IQ, he is quite lucky that the incident was Wreckless.

ef_falcon · Post by **ef_falcon** » December 16th, 2009, 12:12 pm

Man look at that guy he looks like a holden driver. Ever heard of turning it off or jump out lol..

BLC · Post by **BLC** » December 16th, 2009, 12:17 pm

Exploders must have that bullshit key lock thing so fat mouthbreathing americans can't accidentally turn off the ignition. Pretty sure you have to have it in park and your foot on the brake before it'll start the engine, too.

When I heard this on the radio today, I immediately thought of this :
http://www3.signonsandiego.com/stories/ ... ash-probe/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Hill said investigators are studying the burned Lexus, witness accounts, evidence from the crash scene and the 911 call made by back seat passenger Lastrella. A full report should be complete in a few weeks, he said.

The car was northbound at about 120 mph on state Route 125 about 6:30 p.m., Hill said, when it entered a T-intersection with Mission Gorge Road, clipped the rear corner of a Ford Explorer and then plowed over a curb and through a fence before hitting an embankment and going airborne. It rolled several times and then burst into flames.

Hill thinks Saylor, who was driving, started to experience problems with the accelerator sometime before he reached the Route 125 and Interstate 8 intersection, which is about five miles from Mission Gorge Road. Several people called to report that the car was seen speeding and weaving in and out of lanes with its emergency flashers on.

Hill said the evidence shows that there was prolonged “heavy, heavy, hard braking.”

“He did everything he could to stop that car,” he said.

It was a matter of minutes between when the problem started and when the car ran off the road, Hill said, and Saylor had to make a “split-second decision” to head straight into the intersection rather than to take the state Route 52 curve.

“He was still trying to figure out what was wrong with the car,” Hill said. Saylor, a 19-year CHP veteran, must have worked extremely hard to maneuver the Lexus to avoid other cars on the heavily traveled roadway, only hitting the one vehicle, Hill said.

“We were very lucky that there were not more deaths,” Hill said.

Investigators do not know if Saylor tried to shift the car into neutral or if he tried to shut off the engine

tl:dr

Basically, Toyota USA is recalling a HUGE amount of cars because the floor mats jam the accelerator - the article is about an off duty police officer and his family who died because the accelerator was stuck. They called 911 for help after driving 5 miles as the car reached 120mph.......

Sad story, but there are parallels to this guy in his Exploder - you've got to wonder why didn't they turn off the engine, or shift to neutral, or hit the brakes HARD for repeated short bursts.

67rce · Post by **67rce** » December 16th, 2009, 12:27 pm

BLC wrote:Exploders must have that bullshit key lock thing so fat mouthbreathing americans can't accidentally turn off the ignition. Pretty sure you have to have it in park and your foot on the brake before it'll start the engine, too.

When I heard this on the radio today, I immediately thought of this :
http://www3.signonsandiego.com/stories/ ... ash-probe/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Hill said investigators are studying the burned Lexus, witness accounts, evidence from the crash scene and the 911 call made by back seat passenger Lastrella. A full report should be complete in a few weeks, he said.

The car was northbound at about 120 mph on state Route 125 about 6:30 p.m., Hill said, when it entered a T-intersection with Mission Gorge Road, clipped the rear corner of a Ford Explorer and then plowed over a curb and through a fence before hitting an embankment and going airborne. It rolled several times and then burst into flames.

Hill thinks Saylor, who was driving, started to experience problems with the accelerator sometime before he reached the Route 125 and Interstate 8 intersection, which is about five miles from Mission Gorge Road. Several people called to report that the car was seen speeding and weaving in and out of lanes with its emergency flashers on.

Hill said the evidence shows that there was prolonged “heavy, heavy, hard braking.”

“He did everything he could to stop that car,” he said.

It was a matter of minutes between when the problem started and when the car ran off the road, Hill said, and Saylor had to make a “split-second decision” to head straight into the intersection rather than to take the state Route 52 curve.

“He was still trying to figure out what was wrong with the car,” Hill said. Saylor, a 19-year CHP veteran, must have worked extremely hard to maneuver the Lexus to avoid other cars on the heavily traveled roadway, only hitting the one vehicle, Hill said.

“We were very lucky that there were not more deaths,” Hill said.

Investigators do not know if Saylor tried to shift the car into neutral or if he tried to shut off the engine
tl:dr

Basically, Toyota USA is recalling a HUGE amount of cars because the floor mats jam the accelerator - the article is about an off duty police officer and his family who died because the accelerator was stuck. They called 911 for help after driving 5 miles as the car reached 120mph.......

Sad story, but there are parallels to this guy in his Exploder - you've got to wonder why didn't they turn off the engine, or shift to neutral, or hit the brakes HARD for repeated short bursts.

One thing in common in both incidents. YOUNGER DRIVERS.

hairy · Post by **hairy** » December 16th, 2009, 12:37 pm

I heard this idiot on the radio this moring... he called ford while he was driving and they couldnt tell him to nock it into neutral and turn it off thats bad enough but i mean really how clueless could you be to not work that one out for your self. Listening to him this moring i dont even think he believed his own story.

BROCKYB8 · Post by **BROCKYB8** » December 16th, 2009, 12:39 pm

67rce wrote:
One thing in common in both incidents. YOUNGER DRIVERS.

nAH he was in police force for 19 hears mate .
Not 19 years old

turbo · Post by **turbo** » December 16th, 2009, 12:51 pm

but turning the key off wouldnt that lock the steering wheel? then your kinda f..ked

hairy · Post by **hairy** » December 16th, 2009, 1:21 pm

turbo wrote:but turning the key off wouldnt that lock the steering wheel? then your kinda f..ked

not if you turn it back to your reds

Gozza · Post by **Gozza** » December 16th, 2009, 2:05 pm

LOFL. shit has made my day

"She told me to jump on the brake and pull the handbrake at the same time, which I did," Mr Weir said.

"I just shut my eyes. I could hear the tyres skidding on the road for what seemed like forever. I thought I was dead.

what a spactard

BBQBurner · Post by **BBQBurner** » December 16th, 2009, 3:13 pm

Gozza wrote:LOFL. shit has made my day

"She told me to jump on the brake and pull the handbrake at the same time, which I did," Mr Weir said.

"I just shut my eyes. I could hear the tyres skidding on the road for what seemed like forever. I thought I was dead.

what a spactard

yer i read the little write up off the herald sun, looks like a dumb shit.

"Despite his traumatic experience, Mr Weir, who moved here from Brisbane just six weeks ago, said he would have no problem driving his car again"

guess it was that traumatic then

Post by **Sunboost** » December 16th, 2009, 5:08 pm

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=3 ... 284&ref=mf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Everyone join that group or someone make another one that pays the fukk outta this guy.

Stupidest thing I EVER heard in my life.

Steady · Post by **Steady** » December 16th, 2009, 5:25 pm

BBQBurner wrote:yer i read the little write up off the herald sun, looks like a dumb shit.

"Despite his traumatic experience, Mr Weir, who moved here from Brisbane just six weeks ago, said he would have no problem driving his car again"

guess it was that traumatic then

and in closing, that is why victoria needs nukes.
thank you, and good day sir.

UNEZED · Post by **UNEZED** » December 16th, 2009, 5:34 pm

i lol'd when i herd this story on the radio the also called him up

Post by **Bipolar** » December 16th, 2009, 5:53 pm

On the telly this morning he said he couldn't shift into a lower gear and was pushing the lever towards neutral with his foot, AND couldn't turn the key. Would cruise really lock all that shit?

UNEZED · Post by **UNEZED** » December 16th, 2009, 6:10 pm

best part was when ford put him on hold

Troutman · Post by **Troutman** » December 16th, 2009, 8:31 pm

Perhaps the Yanks just take the idiot-proofing too far and it backfired. There's another article in Drive just now:

http://www.drive.com.au/Editorial/Artic ... 8130&vf=12" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Funny quote:
Mr Weir, who recently arrived in Melbourne from Queensland, says he was stuck on 80km/h on the freeway and shutting off the engine and hitting the brakes had no effect.

Must be a very interesting car if it continues to drive even after the engine has been shut off. Even a FORD is not that powerful.

stevo · Post by **stevo** » December 16th, 2009, 8:32 pm

Thats it. I HAVE to try this myself. I dont understand how you cant slow it down. Lets wait and see.

The guy looked like a fuking retard on tv anyway

[Sterling] · Post by **[Sterling]** » December 16th, 2009, 8:43 pm

I think the cars now at Ford Testing centre in the You Yangs, there going over it with a fine tooth comb.
Quite possible everything could have jammed up.
But i beleive hes just a fucking moron.

Rollin · Post by **Rollin** » December 16th, 2009, 11:16 pm

I fail to believe that story is true - Not able to turn the key off, or put the car in neutral? Or overpower that insane V6 with the foot brake? What a lod of shit - the brakes on my car are probably smaller than the ones on the exporer and they can slow the car from 100 in third gear even at WOT (I know this because I have tried to start a powerskid on the freeway before....don't pretend you wouldn't if you could

)

What happened when he finally brought the car to a halt? Did it sit there on the converter like an 8 second VL until the box/engine melted? Or did someone who isn't an intellectual cripple just turn it off?

If I was a paramedic at the scene I would have put that neck brace on very bloody tightly...if you get my drift.

BBQBurner · Post by **BBQBurner** » December 17th, 2009, 6:19 am

And since when does a ford handbrake work well enough to pull a car up?

ClassicAU · Post by **ClassicAU** » December 17th, 2009, 10:56 am

LOL @ Rollin!! That's gold mate!!

Apparently there is something about a known issue with these Explorers now? Someone said there was actually a field campaign for this or a similar issue? Could be bs as well. There is all sorts of crap flying around about this idiot. I am so trying this myself, although I am probably going to kill the car and/or myself in the process!

BROCKYB8 · Post by **BROCKYB8** » December 17th, 2009, 11:17 am

OK does anyone in here have a explorer.
I think we need to first figure this out.
If you can turn car off or put it in drive while driving .

The mechanics in here who have worked on one of these should be able to give light on situation.

If this is american car
does it have a handbrake
or does it have a Foot Hand break.

[Sterling] · Post by **[Sterling]** » December 17th, 2009, 3:09 pm

It was a ford territory guys. Not an explora.

Post by **Sunboost** » December 17th, 2009, 3:17 pm

It was a explorer Kester lol it's been all over the news. Very clear.

tezza bear · Post by **tezza bear** » December 17th, 2009, 3:19 pm

Ok so here is my 2cents worth on the matter, i believe that he paniced and as a result didn't actually listen to what they were saying when they asked him to "turn off the car", it keeps saying he tried to take out the key but as even i am aware you can't just pull the key out whilst it is in the on position (well at least not in the newer model cars anyhow..........lol), unfortunatly when things happen that you least expect you just panic, however you also try everything you can think off like doing everything at once if each thing on its own fails.

Reading the comments from the Hearald Sun i found this one interesting
"We have a 2003 'Exploder', the thing weighs over 2000kg, the hand brake is usless at stopping the car, the brakes are spongey and it takes a lot to pull-up under normal driving anyway, if it was the 4.6ltr V8 it probably keep moving without too much trouble.. most of them are autos and he should have been able to knock it into neutral, the gear selector doesnt have a lock from drive to neutral, you can slip it into neutral at any speed.. sounds like he just paniced!"

At the end of the day i guess the result of no one being hurt was the best outcome, but why it took so long to acheive is the most intesting thing.

I bealive that it was more a driver fault due to panic than a mechaincal or computer fault

Mrs Tezza Bear

Jake · Post by **Jake** » December 17th, 2009, 3:22 pm

BROCKYB8, explorers have hand brakes... I did a week of work experience with a mechanic as part of my tafe work, the hand brake on the car broke... the mechanics couldn't get a replacement part, the leaver wasn't pulling on the cable enough cos some bit of plastic broke so they drilled a hole and put a bolt through the thing which took up a lot of slack in the cable.

Post by **pHaT`eL** » December 17th, 2009, 3:39 pm

I laughed. Why wouldnt you either turn the car off or put it in Neutral?

BBQBurner · Post by **BBQBurner** » December 17th, 2009, 4:36 pm

they had a recall on the brake light switch, some crap about poor quality construction causing electrical fires, (probably just used one out of a El with a new part number on it)

UNEZED · Post by **UNEZED** » December 17th, 2009, 5:03 pm

simple answer to everything the guy was a retard and didnt know wat he was doin lol

Rollin · Post by **Rollin** » December 17th, 2009, 5:36 pm

Too bloody right.

The gene pool definitely needs some chlorine.

Kenaz · Post by **Kenaz** » December 17th, 2009, 6:42 pm

I wonder what will happen with the testing that Ford does to the car in question..

I refuse to believe this stupid **** and I hope that Ford can prove the guy is lying or panicked.