B-Series vs. E-Series

[Rollin]

Why on earth didn't he change the oil? What a rude c*nt!

[bentls]

ba motor is 295
6 litres of oil + a filter every 5-10,000km
so just say $50ish to service it yourself each time
at 5000 intervals he would be at
80,000/5000 = 16
16 x 50 = $800 just in oil and filters in that time.. or $400 if serviced every 10,000

and its still going strong (ish) so it could last even longer still, and the new motor will set him back $295 + a days work, 1 bottle of coolant and maybe give it some fresh oil to bed it in ($370 all up including motor oil and coolant)

[josh_ef]

BA taxi I was in last night had the arm rests fall off lol.

HAHAHAHA thats so true!!!

[edfairmont4.0]

In saying 50,000k, 70,000ks not breaking stuff thats sort of expected, but try a BA with 220,000km and doing 50,70,000ks they will be no better, You will be replacing coils, BCMs, door lock actuators, Power windows, Arm rests, diff bushes they are no more indestructable then E series - I believe... My Eb1 Fairmont had 160,000km on it, I replaced 2 engine mounts. a gearbox mount and 2 lower trailing arm bushes from 160,000km till 230,000km I think thats a fair fucking good effort.

[bentls]

kester got his ba at 150,000 its at about 220,000km now

[xrghiawagon]

Thats why i like EF2 Wagons, all the steering and "rollover" feel was gone

Boy do I feel like an idiot for buying an EF1 wagon, sooooo should've gone the EF2.

I only found out how well the wagon can be redlined tonight when i was just putting it away, revved strong and hard (engine was warm during this exercise)

You're 14, right?

Yeah, well when you parents arent home, what would you do, leave the car in the street with stuffed central locking that wont lock the car at all (live in a couldersack with a laneway right next to my house) or move it into the garage where it is safe and won't be broken into?...............

So i can say that out of B-Series and E-series, i will choose a CLASSIC, not plastic, EF2 Wagon

Ohh yeah, thats another thing that i just remembered, the B-series and FG's are all plastic, unlike the E-series (Excluding EL as i hate it full stop lol)

Yep, definitely 14. Dude, XDs are plastic.

I dont mean the interior if thats what your talking about, i think of it this way, comparing an 1996 EF to an 2010 FG is like chalk and cheese, both very different apart within 15 years.

Thats my view

[Rollin]

ba motor is 295
6 litres of oil + a filter every 5-10,000km
so just say $50ish to service it yourself each time
at 5000 intervals he would be at
80,000/5000 = 16
16 x 50 = $800 just in oil and filters in that time.. or $400 if serviced every 10,000

and its still going strong (ish) so it could last even longer still, and the new motor will set him back $295 + a days work, 1 bottle of coolant and maybe give it some fresh oil to bed it in ($370 all up including motor oil and coolant)

Well I'm quite frankly amazed at how cheap you can get BA motors for.

I'm also amazed that you can swap one in a day, and think it's more worth it than changing the oil....I dunno...seems like a massive waste of an engine to me.

[[Sterling]]

kester got his ba at 150,000 its at about 220,000km now

And after everything you said it still has aircon, awesome heater and comfy to drive still. And I know it will start and won't break down.

[LOW_XR]

ba motor is 295
6 litres of oil + a filter every 5-10,000km
so just say $50ish to service it yourself each time
at 5000 intervals he would be at
80,000/5000 = 16
16 x 50 = $800 just in oil and filters in that time.. or $400 if serviced every 10,000

and its still going strong (ish) so it could last even longer still, and the new motor will set him back $295 + a days work, 1 bottle of coolant and maybe give it some fresh oil to bed it in ($370 all up including motor oil and coolant)

Well I'm quite frankly amazed at how cheap you can get BA motors for.

I'm also amazed that you can swap one in a day, and think it's more worth it than changing the oil....I dunno...seems like a massive waste of an engine to me.

yeah soo cheap. thats just if you walk in off the street too. may pay less than the $295 if you have a trade account with them.
id say a weekend easy as hell. 1 day is possible but would be a bloody crazy day.

[TAXI]

kester got his ba at 150,000 its at about 220,000km now

And after everything you said it still has aircon, awesome heater and comfy to drive still. And I know it will start and won't break down.

my 03 xr6 turbo has no heater (broken mixer shaft) needs rotors again i have got drilled and slotted this time, needs a new trans cos the radiator put water into the trans. now has new radiator
the diff clunks worse than a high k e series diff but the lsd is still tight.
one week ago it busted the rubber hose on the turbo water line not a good thing when ya miles from anywhere. door trims make a horrible creaking noise when ya put wieght on it.
rear door seals fall of all the time but i will silicone them on one day. and the front windows are very slow going up already. and this car has 120.000 on the clock with a full service history.
and the only problem i have had with my last 3 e series was head gaskets when i first put the turbo on the ef gli from not knowing what i was doing.
my ef mont was great cant fault that at all
i now have a eb that was a bucket when i got it but now it drives nice and has nearly got boost.
so basicly if ya spend money on the ba its a nice car to drive but expensive it looks great but will be trading in on a fg xr6t or g6et.
and i will always have a turbo e for fun.

[CaRtZ]

i drive Bseries all day at work and i love getting in either of my 2 EFs at knock off time...

[bentls]

rollin ba motors are fkin easy to change.. seriously 1 day absolute tops, theres nothing to them.. i started on mine when i turbod it friday night after work, bonnet off, inlet off exhaust off, radiator out, disconnect all looms, etc etc etc, and it was ready to lift out when i went to bed which wasnt very late at all cos i had no engine crane, once i got that the next day it lifted out within an hour of starting work again(tail shaft, and trans mounts/lines and 2 engine mount bolts

but i didnt have to remove my manifolds i just did that cos i had no engine crane yet and it gave me something to do...

seriously its about 5-6ish water lines, tail shaft, 2 engine mounts, bonnet, trans mount, trans cooler lines, remove belt unbolt ac unbolt p/s push them aside, remove radiator (just for clearance for engine) and 2 plugs into the pcm and the thing i forgot.. starter (which is about a 30sec job in a ba cos they are tiny)


mixer shaft is $23 or something trade price from ford, if you have a workshop manual and can use screw drivers and basic socket set you can change it yourself in a day.. nudge sikbro has done it, and ive done a few at work with cordless screwdriver and cordless rattle gun took me 4 hours the first one i did...

[Rollin]

So that's another reason BA etc shit on VE then It takes us about 2 days to swap a VE motor at work, and that's with hoists and air

[bentls]

So that's another reason BA etc shit on VE then It takes us about 2 days to swap a VE motor at work, and that's with hoists and air

fark, hell it would take me a day to do a motor on a territory too, and you drop the entire front end of them out cos the motors dont fit out the top or you end up smashing the rad support to bits (thats with a hoist tho)

[private9]

I love how these discussions never include the AU

Back on topigh though, so which mass produced, cheap family barge POS is better?

[LOW_XR]

So that's another reason BA etc shit on VE then It takes us about 2 days to swap a VE motor at work, and that's with hoists and air

love how ve's come into this thread now. VE's are the shit.nuf said

[Rollin]

ED FUCKEN!!!!

[LOW_XR]

your on the right!!!

[Rollin]

JERRY, JERRY, JERRY!

[pHaT`eL]

lol.. there all good IMO.. E-Series because parts are cheap and easy to fix. B-Series because there newer and you dont have to fix anything. In 10-15 years, people will be arguing about B-Series or L-Series Falcons being betterererrrr

[suspect]

XK FTW!!!

[krisisdog]

lol.. there all good IMO.. E-Series because parts are cheap and easy to fix. B-Series because there newer and you dont have to fix anything.

I agree with the first part, but erm, B series are now up to 8 years old, and theres plenty of them about that have had plenty of things replaced!

[OMY-747]

e series for cheap fun and i reckon comfy. i will be getting an fg xr6t ute once i can afford to though, will still keep the ef though.

[LOW_XR]

cool

[NUT347]

Cool story hansel.

Bumping old threads is still gay.

[Nikk O'lass]

V-Series.

[SnyperEB]

Good thread mine

[fordbaby]

go the B-Series

[OMY-747]

lol, forgot to look at the dates

[1990EAFairmontGhia]

E series ftw.

[Bipolar]

e seres look tuffa but the bs eres has got mor powar so wat ya gona do

[NUT347]

My cock ftw.

[SnyperEB]

My cock ftw.

[Nikk O'lass]

e seres look tuffa but the bs eres has got mor powar so wat ya gona do

imma get a B engun an put it in mi E seres